首次公开 UNDERFM专访Von Thronstahl
新集权阴影下的统一 —— 德国集权新古典工业团Von Thronstahl专访
简介：95年组建的德国集权新古典乐队Von Thronstahl显然是我们这期杂志特别专题栏目所不能错过的采访对象。12年来以Josef Klumb和Bernhard兄弟为核心的三男两女原始阵容一直保持到现在。Von Thronstahl的音乐中混合着澎湃雄壮的交响乐铺陈；强力整齐的进行曲节拍；猛烈高压的工业敲击和冷峻优美的新民谣旋律；主题内容紧紧围绕着乐队成员的右翼政治诉求，Von Thronstahl严厉谴责着现在欧洲蔓延的自由主义和无政府主义，始终渴望着继承以往欧洲的历史遗产重新建立起一个新的统一而强大的欧洲。当然实现这种目标的手段只有一个，且肯定不是音乐。真实的答案在哪？大家彼此明了且心照不宣。
很感谢英国军事工业名厂Cold Spring主脑Jostin的引荐，我们在07年6月对Von Thronstahl做了一次直接而深刻的采访，所有对集权音乐有兴趣的朋友们不要错过这次访谈。希望我们能在倾听音乐之后，头脑里还能思考更多。
问：Murk/UNDER FM
答：/Von Thronstahl
翻译：Zu/Martyrdom
你好，Von Thronstahl：
非常感谢您能接受这遥远的采访邀请。您们以前接触过来自中国的黑暗乐迷么？我是一个工业启示录/集权工业类音乐的超级乐迷，非常喜欢Von Thronstahl的音乐。机会难得，希望我提出的问题能让您感兴趣并做出详细的回答。
1.首先祝贺SACRIFICARE全新专辑的顺利出品，目前我还没有拿到成品。可以给我们大家介绍一下它的音乐和内容么？好像它有三个不同的版本，特别是limitierte CD Edition Box，照片看上去相当精美让人过目难忘。
1. Thanks a lot for the opportunity to speak in front of a chinese audience . Yes there re three Versions , nut music is on allvwersion the same , so far. The Graphics , Styles and Formats are diffrent and done by diffrent designers , but the official COLD SPRING Relese in July is the beutiful one which will spred over europe and hopefully also china. The limited box was so much hevy to sell it overseas. The Music this time is more Neofolk than before , but the neoklassical Orchestral sound will return in the future.
2.Von Thronstahl这个名字有着怎样的含义？惭愧说到现在我也没能明白。很多中国大陆的黑暗音乐听过你们的作品但是对乐队的背景却一无所知，借此给我们详细介绍一下乐队的以往历史吧。Von Thronstahl的组建是源于共同的政治信念还是共同的音乐理念？
2. Mhh i think the chinese Audience may will be confused if i tell you that the Name VON THRONSTAHL based on monarchic themes and thougths . THRONE and STEEL ,- shall mean something like an unmovable reign which got nothing to do with modern democracy and modern ways of western Governments. It stands also for some unmovable IDEAS which cn not be relativated during long discussions. The western world with its modern thinking stnds for such kinds of endless discussions . And this is what VON THRONSTAHL is NOT stnding for.
3.非常喜欢乐队的logo，那是一个什么符号？代表着怎样的含义。我从科普电视节目中看到希姆莱领导的盖世太保会议大厅的地板上也有这个图形，这是Von Thronstahl使用这个符号的初衷么？
3. We re using also Third Reich symbolisms or styles of the fascist era,- but GESTAPO , the secret state police of the third reich is not what i call great. Im not a fan of Spying , Agents and BIG BROTHER Behavings like George Orwell showd us in its Book "1984" Our Icons connects with the past , with style and ideas, but not with massmurder and killing.
4.Von Thronstahl怎么定位自己的音乐？我从里面听到了古典音乐，进行曲，电影采样，新民谣和工业音乐等等诸多元素。随着时间的流失；年龄的增长，Von Thronstahl有了什么改变么？您最满意自己的哪张作品。为什么？
4. I think the next one on which im working now can be a new favorite. I try to combine there Neofolk , Orchestral , Neoklassic and also some deep Metall Guitars to a sound of wall again. SACRIFICARE may IS A MORE COMMERCIAL ONE ; ITS more transparent than others. Not so martialic but in a romantik way still powerfull.
5.从Imperium Internum到E Pluribus Unum再到Bellum, Sacrum Bellum，在以上三张正式专辑中，我觉得Bellum, Sacrum Bellum颇为特别。感觉它相对于前两张专辑比，气氛明快了很多，作品节奏也跳跃了很多，近似LAIBACH后期作品的风格。我觉得它有些主流了。对此您怎么看？
5. BELLUM SACRUM was done during a difficult period for RAYMOND , he was not so involved and spended a lot of energys and times with familary problematiks and battles of surviving. So it became a more Solo One. But the WAR THEME on this CD (USA/IRAK ) needed heavy drums and mschine gun rythms . It was not my itention to do a secret LIBCH Album, but i join LAIBACH verymuch.
6.从Von Thronstahl的某些作品中我听到了赤裸裸的狂热和激进情绪，危险而冷酷。而从另一些作品里我又感受到了忧伤、脆弱和美丽。非常矛盾的两种气质同时出现在一张专辑内，这在其他同类乐队的作品中很少出现。对此您有什么解释么？
6. Such Controversions indeed comes from deepinside , and it may is what GOETHE call the FAUST(ian) GERMAN . Its a deep typical German thing to play and combine EXTREMES . Also the SACRIFICARE CD is exactly the way you just said. Two Souls in one hert and CD . I like that .
7.我是个彻头彻尾的军事/集权乐迷，PUISSANCE，ARIDITI，ROMA，COLD FUSION，WAPPENBUND等乐队的作品都是我的最爱。当然也包括Von Thronstahl。您对以上几个乐队了解么？能给我们简单评价一下他们么？我发现了一个有趣的现象，只要涉及军事/集权题材，德国二战的那段历史就变得特别热门，好像每个此类乐队都会用音乐来阐述自己的政治观点和描绘着当时的战况。您觉得为什么会这样？
7. Especiallly PUISSANCE from the Beginning on i enjoyed very much. Their kind of Style, Sounds , Arts together with the dark scandinavian wood feel of deep forests and archaics in combination with War themes are very unique. The way such Groups are using WORLD WAR TWO Themes may isnot realy a kind of Warshiping death and war,-its the powerful way of transforming our history into art . You must know that SOCIAL WORKERS , Teachers and Intellectual People in Europe and especially Germany using such Themes only in strange ways of politicall correctness . We are the onlyest artists which work on such themes with a real open mind ,- and not Excuses and saying Sorry is the important point for us. We overcome our Heavy Metall Past and all that IRON AGE and BOMBING Decade not by the way of getting on our knees and show the world how good and nice we are ,- we overcome it by art , music. Were trnsforming Pst and History.
8.在Von Thronstahl出品过的众多作品中，我对05年乐队参与"HAIL THE CAPTAIN AND THY GUARD" PREZENT! VA有着特别的兴趣，我很想了解这张合辑的主题内容，都有哪些乐队参与。Rumanien是家怎样的厂牌。能和我们说说这些的情况么。据说由于它的影响，德国新民谣乐队BELBORN迫于政府的压力最终解散。（我非常喜欢这个乐队，这太让人伤心了。）您了解这件事的内情么？和我说说吧。 另外同样是德国乐队的Von Thronstahl却仿佛却没有受到这样那样的影响。这里面有什么特别的原因么？
8. Long bevore this CD which is not beautifull , not realy deep inspired not a real production ,- there came out a real IRON GUARD double CD tributing THE CAPTAIN CODREANU from ROMANIA , with great artworks and good sonds. But the CD you asked was just aburned CD in an ugly sleeve with strange combinations of strangesounds. We didnt know about the label behind - but the way that lots of so called Skinhead Bands appered on the CD causes Problems. BELBORN got nothing to do with a Skinhead Scene , but our Enemies wanted to make a big Problem out of this. I dont care. I can live with the stupid sigths of our fucking enemies. But BELBORN broke between the Bullshit of LEFT and RIGTHZ idiots . But this little ugly CD was defently no good work ,- totaly loveless in production and style. We had noProblem with such enemies because we told our enemies from the beginning to fuckoff. We never made excuses ,and thts the way we,re still acting.
9.另外我听到过很多传言：由于乐队鲜明的政治诉求，在德国曾经受到过不少来自于政府和文化组织的抵制。请问这是否属实。如果是，能给我们说些相关的经历么？有关目前德国政府的一些做法我倒是深有体会，我自己也在中国运作一个小的黑暗厂牌，我旗下的一支军事集权工业乐队M.O.T.T的专辑给德国朋友邮寄的时候就被扣以“封面和音乐内容违禁”的帽子被德国海关没收了。但那其实只是一张描述历史的专辑，甚至不包含政治观点。就您个人而言，您把乐队的作品看作是一份政治宣言；还是一部艺术作品？我个人的观点是，音乐家的作品只是一种艺术，在艺术领域，它应该享受到创作和表达的自由。听众可以同意乐队的观点也可以不同意，他们有表达乃至争论和争吵的自由和权利，艺术家们不该干涉。但政府却不该贸然用行政或者法律等国家暴力手段来扼杀这些所谓的“危险”观点，特别是在没有明确证据证明这些观点确实是“危险”的情况下。您觉得呢？
9. Oh yes , you must know, that all the so called WESTERN FREE SPEECH , is mor an Fayritale , - you can say million words of rubbish without problems , but some sentence of the truth can cost you your Job , your Career , and some decicions can cost you your live. Im not a Believer of Western democratic Sysmtems. I see the same corruption the same Power-politics and political betrayal like in totlitarian Regimes. What i dont like on the Western of today is the kind of wearing nice Maskerades of Freedome , Liberty ,-but behind such masks thers Lie , Betrayal , shit. Yes Government was or is still controling me , but i dont realy care ,- and since years its not possible to play here in germany. We are official not forbidden, but it feels liketo be forbidden when its not possible to play in my homelnd ,- also secret concerts re no more possible for us. Thats the Truth behind the western way and promises of Freee speech and Liberty. In 1999 i hd a Contract with SONY MUSIC , but the Pressure on SONY was too hard ,- they payed me 10.000 DM ( 5,000 Euros ) and wved goodbye becuse some political lobbys told them to throw me out. But noProblem. No , thers no free speech. But you can vote and decide between Mc Donalds and Burger King , Coca or Pepsi Cola.
10.Fasci/nation是你们自己的厂牌么？它好像还出品乐队的军装和T shirt，OCCIDENTAL DANDY CLUB（西方花花公子俱乐部）又是个什么样的组织，我看到了不少帅男的照片，抱歉那里面我就认识JUDE LAW。ECCLESIA MILITANS呢？由于语言隔阂，我从来没弄明白过Von Thronstahl这几个栏目里说的是什么内容，请给我们解释一下吧。
10. THE OCCIDENTAL DANDY THING is a thing ofStyle, abit fashion ,- but no fashion which changes from week to week from year to yer, its,more the eternal classical western chic which we celebrate there . STYLE is important . ECCLESSIA MILITANS is a more spiritual thing ,- i need both .ECCLESSIA MILITANS shows a kind of traditional martial Catholic Christianity.
11.我还在您们的官方站里发现了其他好玩的东西，南方公园版的乐队照片？太酷了！哈，您们很喜欢这部片子么？我也很喜欢。我还以为你们非常反对美国文化呢，因此从一些的专辑的内页文字里我发现了乐队的这种倾向。
11. SOUTH PARK is a great humoristic mirror of all the western civilisated shit. I love this kind of mirror ,- it brings a lot of western madness on the humoristic point. Great rubish art.
12.看过很多你们的现场照片，非常喜欢你们的舞台表现力。能介绍一下你们的现场经历和感受么？很多黑暗组合的现场远远逊色于他们的专辑，但显然Von Thronstahl并不是这样！由于地域和国家政治问题估计我有生之年很难实际到场看你们的演出了，能不能出张现场DVD？
12. With the BELLUM SACRUM BELLUM Line up,-our shows went often to Hardcore Shows. I come from PUNK , and the BELLUM SACRUM BELLUM Concerts returned me backto Punk ,- it was a kind of Military PUNK. Now , yers older it better fits to my age of 45 when im working on something like a Frank Sintra Image , or DEAN MARTIN , both great Americans . ( h sometimes the Wild wild west gives me and gave me a lot ,- The american wy of culture is strnge and maybe sick , but ELVIS PRESLEY , SINATRA, Lee Hazlewood and some other Rocknrollersare Great ) But back to the Answer. If were playing now , than more accoustik sets , slow stuff romantric melodic stuff ,- Music which fits to blck suites , a good whiskey and an occidental longing.
13.宗教和政治哪个在您的生命里占有更重要的地位？坦诚的说，您是否希望亲身经历一次世界大战或者一次人类大毁灭么？您会对自己是一个人类而感到懊恼和羞愧么？死亡对您来说意味着什么？
13. Im more religious than political. More Philosopher than Ideologe. LIFE is sacred , the world is an importnt little place in the big universe . Im not a Misanthrophic one. Beiing human must mean much more than eating , drinking , consuming .Its a call to create . Death means not much for a Christian.
14.能问一下你用什么设备创作音乐么（软件&硬件）？我的一些中国朋友也创作此类音乐，但他们是如此的缺乏经验。如果可能的话给他们一些建议吧？
14. The True Secret is that i have absolutly no idea of modern studuo technologie , and im happy that the guys in the studios know how to run themachines which mkes my ideas come true.I got no equipment , i gor a cheap base ,- but no technics at home . If i got n idea i rent myengeneer and its studio .
15.最后说说其他厂牌吧，我知道Von Thronstahl与许多厂牌合作出品过作品，我很想听听你对于他们的评价，特别是COLD SPRING和VAWS。
Justin is soo much stronger than 98% of german Label Owners . And VAWS is the onlyest German Label Runner on which i can count .
16.再次感谢您接受我们的采访，最后还有什么要对我们的读者说的么？祝SACRIFICARE专辑热卖！请留下您们的通信地址，当杂志成品出来后我会给您们邮寄样刊。HAILZ
16. Please , if you wnt to ask more , just send questions. HAIL TO CHINA, AND KEEP YOUR COUNTRY CLEAN FROM Mc Donalds ,- because its the beginning of the end. yours jk
简介：95年组建的德国集权新古典乐队Von Thronstahl显然是我们这期杂志特别专题栏目所不能错过的采访对象。12年来以Josef Klumb和Bernhard兄弟为核心的三男两女原始阵容一直保持到现在。Von Thronstahl的音乐中混合着澎湃雄壮的交响乐铺陈；强力整齐的进行曲节拍；猛烈高压的工业敲击和冷峻优美的新民谣旋律；主题内容紧紧围绕着乐队成员的右翼政治诉求，Von Thronstahl严厉谴责着现在欧洲蔓延的自由主义和无政府主义，始终渴望着继承以往欧洲的历史遗产重新建立起一个新的统一而强大的欧洲。当然实现这种目标的手段只有一个，且肯定不是音乐。真实的答案在哪？大家彼此明了且心照不宣。
很感谢英国军事工业名厂Cold Spring主脑Jostin的引荐，我们在07年6月对Von Thronstahl做了一次直接而深刻的采访，所有对集权音乐有兴趣的朋友们不要错过这次访谈。希望我们能在倾听音乐之后，头脑里还能思考更多。
问：Murk/UNDER FM
答：/Von Thronstahl
翻译：Zu/Martyrdom
你好，Von Thronstahl：
非常感谢您能接受这遥远的采访邀请。您们以前接触过来自中国的黑暗乐迷么？我是一个工业启示录/集权工业类音乐的超级乐迷，非常喜欢Von Thronstahl的音乐。机会难得，希望我提出的问题能让您感兴趣并做出详细的回答。
1.首先祝贺SACRIFICARE全新专辑的顺利出品，目前我还没有拿到成品。可以给我们大家介绍一下它的音乐和内容么？好像它有三个不同的版本，特别是limitierte CD Edition Box，照片看上去相当精美让人过目难忘。
1. Thanks a lot for the opportunity to speak in front of a chinese audience . Yes there re three Versions , nut music is on allvwersion the same , so far. The Graphics , Styles and Formats are diffrent and done by diffrent designers , but the official COLD SPRING Relese in July is the beutiful one which will spred over europe and hopefully also china. The limited box was so much hevy to sell it overseas. The Music this time is more Neofolk than before , but the neoklassical Orchestral sound will return in the future.
2.Von Thronstahl这个名字有着怎样的含义？惭愧说到现在我也没能明白。很多中国大陆的黑暗音乐听过你们的作品但是对乐队的背景却一无所知，借此给我们详细介绍一下乐队的以往历史吧。Von Thronstahl的组建是源于共同的政治信念还是共同的音乐理念？
2. Mhh i think the chinese Audience may will be confused if i tell you that the Name VON THRONSTAHL based on monarchic themes and thougths . THRONE and STEEL ,- shall mean something like an unmovable reign which got nothing to do with modern democracy and modern ways of western Governments. It stands also for some unmovable IDEAS which cn not be relativated during long discussions. The western world with its modern thinking stnds for such kinds of endless discussions . And this is what VON THRONSTAHL is NOT stnding for.
3.非常喜欢乐队的logo，那是一个什么符号？代表着怎样的含义。我从科普电视节目中看到希姆莱领导的盖世太保会议大厅的地板上也有这个图形，这是Von Thronstahl使用这个符号的初衷么？
3. We re using also Third Reich symbolisms or styles of the fascist era,- but GESTAPO , the secret state police of the third reich is not what i call great. Im not a fan of Spying , Agents and BIG BROTHER Behavings like George Orwell showd us in its Book "1984" Our Icons connects with the past , with style and ideas, but not with massmurder and killing.
4.Von Thronstahl怎么定位自己的音乐？我从里面听到了古典音乐，进行曲，电影采样，新民谣和工业音乐等等诸多元素。随着时间的流失；年龄的增长，Von Thronstahl有了什么改变么？您最满意自己的哪张作品。为什么？
4. I think the next one on which im working now can be a new favorite. I try to combine there Neofolk , Orchestral , Neoklassic and also some deep Metall Guitars to a sound of wall again. SACRIFICARE may IS A MORE COMMERCIAL ONE ; ITS more transparent than others. Not so martialic but in a romantik way still powerfull.
5.从Imperium Internum到E Pluribus Unum再到Bellum, Sacrum Bellum，在以上三张正式专辑中，我觉得Bellum, Sacrum Bellum颇为特别。感觉它相对于前两张专辑比，气氛明快了很多，作品节奏也跳跃了很多，近似LAIBACH后期作品的风格。我觉得它有些主流了。对此您怎么看？
5. BELLUM SACRUM was done during a difficult period for RAYMOND , he was not so involved and spended a lot of energys and times with familary problematiks and battles of surviving. So it became a more Solo One. But the WAR THEME on this CD (USA/IRAK ) needed heavy drums and mschine gun rythms . It was not my itention to do a secret LIBCH Album, but i join LAIBACH verymuch.
6.从Von Thronstahl的某些作品中我听到了赤裸裸的狂热和激进情绪，危险而冷酷。而从另一些作品里我又感受到了忧伤、脆弱和美丽。非常矛盾的两种气质同时出现在一张专辑内，这在其他同类乐队的作品中很少出现。对此您有什么解释么？
6. Such Controversions indeed comes from deepinside , and it may is what GOETHE call the FAUST(ian) GERMAN . Its a deep typical German thing to play and combine EXTREMES . Also the SACRIFICARE CD is exactly the way you just said. Two Souls in one hert and CD . I like that .
7.我是个彻头彻尾的军事/集权乐迷，PUISSANCE，ARIDITI，ROMA，COLD FUSION，WAPPENBUND等乐队的作品都是我的最爱。当然也包括Von Thronstahl。您对以上几个乐队了解么？能给我们简单评价一下他们么？我发现了一个有趣的现象，只要涉及军事/集权题材，德国二战的那段历史就变得特别热门，好像每个此类乐队都会用音乐来阐述自己的政治观点和描绘着当时的战况。您觉得为什么会这样？
7. Especiallly PUISSANCE from the Beginning on i enjoyed very much. Their kind of Style, Sounds , Arts together with the dark scandinavian wood feel of deep forests and archaics in combination with War themes are very unique. The way such Groups are using WORLD WAR TWO Themes may isnot realy a kind of Warshiping death and war,-its the powerful way of transforming our history into art . You must know that SOCIAL WORKERS , Teachers and Intellectual People in Europe and especially Germany using such Themes only in strange ways of politicall correctness . We are the onlyest artists which work on such themes with a real open mind ,- and not Excuses and saying Sorry is the important point for us. We overcome our Heavy Metall Past and all that IRON AGE and BOMBING Decade not by the way of getting on our knees and show the world how good and nice we are ,- we overcome it by art , music. Were trnsforming Pst and History.
8.在Von Thronstahl出品过的众多作品中，我对05年乐队参与"HAIL THE CAPTAIN AND THY GUARD" PREZENT! VA有着特别的兴趣，我很想了解这张合辑的主题内容，都有哪些乐队参与。Rumanien是家怎样的厂牌。能和我们说说这些的情况么。据说由于它的影响，德国新民谣乐队BELBORN迫于政府的压力最终解散。（我非常喜欢这个乐队，这太让人伤心了。）您了解这件事的内情么？和我说说吧。 另外同样是德国乐队的Von Thronstahl却仿佛却没有受到这样那样的影响。这里面有什么特别的原因么？
8. Long bevore this CD which is not beautifull , not realy deep inspired not a real production ,- there came out a real IRON GUARD double CD tributing THE CAPTAIN CODREANU from ROMANIA , with great artworks and good sonds. But the CD you asked was just aburned CD in an ugly sleeve with strange combinations of strangesounds. We didnt know about the label behind - but the way that lots of so called Skinhead Bands appered on the CD causes Problems. BELBORN got nothing to do with a Skinhead Scene , but our Enemies wanted to make a big Problem out of this. I dont care. I can live with the stupid sigths of our fucking enemies. But BELBORN broke between the Bullshit of LEFT and RIGTHZ idiots . But this little ugly CD was defently no good work ,- totaly loveless in production and style. We had noProblem with such enemies because we told our enemies from the beginning to fuckoff. We never made excuses ,and thts the way we,re still acting.
9.另外我听到过很多传言：由于乐队鲜明的政治诉求，在德国曾经受到过不少来自于政府和文化组织的抵制。请问这是否属实。如果是，能给我们说些相关的经历么？有关目前德国政府的一些做法我倒是深有体会，我自己也在中国运作一个小的黑暗厂牌，我旗下的一支军事集权工业乐队M.O.T.T的专辑给德国朋友邮寄的时候就被扣以“封面和音乐内容违禁”的帽子被德国海关没收了。但那其实只是一张描述历史的专辑，甚至不包含政治观点。就您个人而言，您把乐队的作品看作是一份政治宣言；还是一部艺术作品？我个人的观点是，音乐家的作品只是一种艺术，在艺术领域，它应该享受到创作和表达的自由。听众可以同意乐队的观点也可以不同意，他们有表达乃至争论和争吵的自由和权利，艺术家们不该干涉。但政府却不该贸然用行政或者法律等国家暴力手段来扼杀这些所谓的“危险”观点，特别是在没有明确证据证明这些观点确实是“危险”的情况下。您觉得呢？
9. Oh yes , you must know, that all the so called WESTERN FREE SPEECH , is mor an Fayritale , - you can say million words of rubbish without problems , but some sentence of the truth can cost you your Job , your Career , and some decicions can cost you your live. Im not a Believer of Western democratic Sysmtems. I see the same corruption the same Power-politics and political betrayal like in totlitarian Regimes. What i dont like on the Western of today is the kind of wearing nice Maskerades of Freedome , Liberty ,-but behind such masks thers Lie , Betrayal , shit. Yes Government was or is still controling me , but i dont realy care ,- and since years its not possible to play here in germany. We are official not forbidden, but it feels liketo be forbidden when its not possible to play in my homelnd ,- also secret concerts re no more possible for us. Thats the Truth behind the western way and promises of Freee speech and Liberty. In 1999 i hd a Contract with SONY MUSIC , but the Pressure on SONY was too hard ,- they payed me 10.000 DM ( 5,000 Euros ) and wved goodbye becuse some political lobbys told them to throw me out. But noProblem. No , thers no free speech. But you can vote and decide between Mc Donalds and Burger King , Coca or Pepsi Cola.
10.Fasci/nation是你们自己的厂牌么？它好像还出品乐队的军装和T shirt，OCCIDENTAL DANDY CLUB（西方花花公子俱乐部）又是个什么样的组织，我看到了不少帅男的照片，抱歉那里面我就认识JUDE LAW。ECCLESIA MILITANS呢？由于语言隔阂，我从来没弄明白过Von Thronstahl这几个栏目里说的是什么内容，请给我们解释一下吧。
10. THE OCCIDENTAL DANDY THING is a thing ofStyle, abit fashion ,- but no fashion which changes from week to week from year to yer, its,more the eternal classical western chic which we celebrate there . STYLE is important . ECCLESSIA MILITANS is a more spiritual thing ,- i need both .ECCLESSIA MILITANS shows a kind of traditional martial Catholic Christianity.
11.我还在您们的官方站里发现了其他好玩的东西，南方公园版的乐队照片？太酷了！哈，您们很喜欢这部片子么？我也很喜欢。我还以为你们非常反对美国文化呢，因此从一些的专辑的内页文字里我发现了乐队的这种倾向。
11. SOUTH PARK is a great humoristic mirror of all the western civilisated shit. I love this kind of mirror ,- it brings a lot of western madness on the humoristic point. Great rubish art.
12.看过很多你们的现场照片，非常喜欢你们的舞台表现力。能介绍一下你们的现场经历和感受么？很多黑暗组合的现场远远逊色于他们的专辑，但显然Von Thronstahl并不是这样！由于地域和国家政治问题估计我有生之年很难实际到场看你们的演出了，能不能出张现场DVD？
12. With the BELLUM SACRUM BELLUM Line up,-our shows went often to Hardcore Shows. I come from PUNK , and the BELLUM SACRUM BELLUM Concerts returned me backto Punk ,- it was a kind of Military PUNK. Now , yers older it better fits to my age of 45 when im working on something like a Frank Sintra Image , or DEAN MARTIN , both great Americans . ( h sometimes the Wild wild west gives me and gave me a lot ,- The american wy of culture is strnge and maybe sick , but ELVIS PRESLEY , SINATRA, Lee Hazlewood and some other Rocknrollersare Great ) But back to the Answer. If were playing now , than more accoustik sets , slow stuff romantric melodic stuff ,- Music which fits to blck suites , a good whiskey and an occidental longing.
13.宗教和政治哪个在您的生命里占有更重要的地位？坦诚的说，您是否希望亲身经历一次世界大战或者一次人类大毁灭么？您会对自己是一个人类而感到懊恼和羞愧么？死亡对您来说意味着什么？
13. Im more religious than political. More Philosopher than Ideologe. LIFE is sacred , the world is an importnt little place in the big universe . Im not a Misanthrophic one. Beiing human must mean much more than eating , drinking , consuming .Its a call to create . Death means not much for a Christian.
14.能问一下你用什么设备创作音乐么（软件&硬件）？我的一些中国朋友也创作此类音乐，但他们是如此的缺乏经验。如果可能的话给他们一些建议吧？
14. The True Secret is that i have absolutly no idea of modern studuo technologie , and im happy that the guys in the studios know how to run themachines which mkes my ideas come true.I got no equipment , i gor a cheap base ,- but no technics at home . If i got n idea i rent myengeneer and its studio .
15.最后说说其他厂牌吧，我知道Von Thronstahl与许多厂牌合作出品过作品，我很想听听你对于他们的评价，特别是COLD SPRING和VAWS。
Justin is soo much stronger than 98% of german Label Owners . And VAWS is the onlyest German Label Runner on which i can count .
16.再次感谢您接受我们的采访，最后还有什么要对我们的读者说的么？祝SACRIFICARE专辑热卖！请留下您们的通信地址，当杂志成品出来后我会给您们邮寄样刊。HAILZ
16. Please , if you wnt to ask more , just send questions. HAIL TO CHINA, AND KEEP YOUR COUNTRY CLEAN FROM Mc Donalds ,- because its the beginning of the end. yours jk
