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悲观主义者 - 爱尔兰碾核Abaddon Incarnate乐队专访

火山杂志 2020-07-21 18:09:05

说到爱尔兰的重金属乐队你会想起谁？要是更极端的死亡金属或者碾核风格乐队你又会想起那支乐队呢？我想很少有人会想起那支乐队是来自这个国家的，那么今天我就给大家介绍一支来自爱尔兰的碾核乐队Abaddon Incarnate，这支乐队成立于1994年的爱尔兰首都都柏林，当时Rob，Olan，Alan，Bill，Stephen（这次采访的对象Steve的原名）几个人组建了一支名为Bereaved中速死亡金属风格的乐队（网上写的是这支乐队成立于1989年，但是经过Steve的证实乐队成立于1992年）

Bereaved乐队logo

Bereaved乐队成员照

在1992年乐队发行了一张名为“Signs of Death”2首歌的demo作品，然后在1994年又发行了一张名为“Tortured Souls”3首歌的demo之后在1995年之后改名为现在的Abaddon Incarnate名字（也不是像网上写的是1994年成立，但是刚才写的就是按照网上成立时间写的）再改名为Abaddon Incarnate之后乐队在1995年发行了一张名为“When the Demons Come”五首歌的demo作品，1997年乐队又发行了一张两首歌的“Promo 97”demo作为乐队的宣传歌曲使用，在1999年乐队被法国的著名标签Season of Mist（一家以发行死亡金属，黑金属，哥特金属，前卫金属为主标签）看中，并且为他们发行了乐队的第一张正式专辑“The Last Supper”，这张正式专辑包含了1995年和1997年的两张demo里的几首歌（1995年demo的三首歌曲和1997年demo的两首歌）加上六首新歌组成了第一张正式专辑，Vocals为双主唱,以低音兽吼为主体并伴有高音嘶吼。吉他弹奏还是相当出色的,吉他手的技术应该说也是相当不错的,这从他弹出的各种各样的riff中可以清楚地说明,另外在歌曲中还有大段的变态的solo。鼓更多地采用Thrash Metal常用的固定的节奏,那种在美式死亡中常见的猛然间的暴风骤雨般的速度是没有的。是一张不错的老式死亡金属风格加上grindcore风格专辑，随后乐队在2001年再次发行了第二张正式专辑“Nadir”，这张也是我本人最喜欢的一张专辑（当然也收藏了一张CD）与他们上一张“The Last Supper”相比，乐队在这张“Nadir”中，风格发生了巨大的变化。上一张专辑略带GRINDCORE音乐元素的DEATH METAL音乐完全被这张作品中的彻头彻尾的GRINDCORE音乐所取代；而且这一变化并不是简单的百分比的变化，而是完全彻底的音乐类型的变化，这张作品的风格不可思议地变成了SHORT/CUT GRIND！或许ABADDON INCARNATE音乐本身就更适合演奏碾核音乐，乐队在上一张只有单纯低吼的演唱方式乐队还加上了一个极其尖厉的唱腔，刺耳的程度丝毫不亚于一些Black Metal乐队的唱腔（乐队早期就是黑金属/死亡金属风格）。而无论是鼓，还是吉它RIFF，基本上都是典型的散乱的、放射状的碾核音乐形式，较整齐的小节并不多见。整张专辑听下来，有些类似于诸如NASUM、BIRDFLESH一类的瑞典碾核乐队的风格。ABADDON INCARNATE的这张专辑无论是激烈度，还是技术，都比上张作品有了不小的进步，在乐队进过这两张专辑洗礼之后乐队也在2004年发行了“Dark Crusade”，2009年发行了“Cascade”，2014年发行了“Pessimist”三张正式专辑，乐队也发生了一些变化，乐队更换了一些成员新加入了一名女性贝斯手Irene（来自意大利西西里岛）

2016年乐队新的主唱Wayne也加入了乐队，经过更换乐队成员和发行了三张专辑之后，乐队也迎来各类大型音乐节的邀请，进行了很多大型音乐节的现场表演，在2017年发行了“Live Pessimism”现场专辑之后就再无消息了，就在前几天我联系到了乐队的负责人Steve进行了一次友好而切简短的采访，让大家更加的熟悉这支来自爱尔兰的碾核乐队（V: 代表笔者 S: 代表了Steve）。

V: 您好兄弟，您的乐队成立于1994年。谁提议组建这个乐队？

Hello brother, Your band was established in 1994. Who proposed to form this band?

S: 你好！我们想玩带有grindcore元素的快速死亡金属。我们喜欢一起玩音乐。我们希望比其他所有人更快，更极端。

Hello! We wanted to play fast death metal with grindcore elements. We enjoyed playing music together. We wanted to be faster and more extreme than everyone else.

V: 我看到您乐队原来的名字是Bereaved。它成立于1989年，并发布了两个demo作品。直到1994年，乐队的名字才更名为Abaddon Incarnate。你为什么改变乐队的名字？您能简要介绍一下死亡金属Bereave乐队吗？

I saw your band’s previous name was Bereaved. It was formed in 1989 and released two demo works. It was not until 1994 that the band’s name was changed to Abaddon Incarnate. Why did you change the band’s name? Can you briefly introduce the death metal band Bereave?

S: 我认为Bereave成立于92年，互联网上存在一些误传。89年那个时候，我才11岁，还太年轻而无法在乐队中演奏。而且我认为我们改名的时候是95岁。 Bereave是一个缓慢的中速死亡金属乐队。我们有一个新的鼓手“ Olan parkinson”，他对打鼓节奏很感兴趣，我只做Bereave乐队的人声，但我是一名出色的吉他手，所以我想担任那个角色。名称的改变是为了找到更适合音乐的激进名称。

I think bereaved formed in 92, there is some misinformation around on the internet, In 89 I would have been 11 years old and too young to play in a band. and also I think it was 95 when we changed the name. Bereaved was a slow mid paced death metal band. We got a new drummer "Olan parkinson" who was interested in playing grind beats and I was doing only vocals in bereaved but I was a good guitar player so I wanted to do that role. The change of name was to find a more aggressive name to suit the music.

V: 我看到您在2015年和2016年更换了两名新乐队成员。为什么原来的成员退出了乐队？你们现在还是朋友吗？您认为新成员如何帮助乐队？

I saw that you changed two new band members in 2015 and 2016. Why did the original members quit the band? Are you still friends now? How do you think the new members help the band?

S: 史蒂夫芬纳蒂（Steve Finnerty）和约翰尼金（Johnny King）在2015/16赛季离开。史蒂夫是个朋克歌手，从理论上讲，他无法继续留在乐队中，我想约翰尼对此充满了激情。他曾在许多其他乐队中演出，并希望专注于他们。是的，我仍然是两个人的朋友。我和约翰尼在都柏林的合租一间房子，我们就像家人一样，史蒂夫和约翰尼都不是原始成员。在这些家伙之前，有许多鼓手和贝斯手。每个人都有不同的原因，我们已经走了25年了，有些人从中成长，继续前进，感到无聊，有了其他计划，移居到其他国家。

Steve Finnerty and Johnny king left in 2015/16. Steve was a punk and Ideologically unable to continue in the band and I guess Johnny just ran out of passion for it. he was playing in many other bands and wanted to focus on them. Yes I still am friends with both guys. I share a house with a johnny in Dublin. I am friends with everyone who has passed through our band we are all like family, Steve and johnny were not original members. there have been many drummers and bass players before those guys. everybody leaves for different reasons, we have been going 25 years some people grow out of it, move on, get bored, have other plans, move to other countries.

V: 您的乐队总共发行了五张专辑《 Nadir》，是我最喜欢的专辑，这三张专辑的风格略有变化。 Last Supper和Nadir专辑的风格包括：有黑金属的味道，而Cascade是纯grindcore风格的专辑。为什么要改变自己的风格？您能详细谈谈这个过程吗？

Your band has released a total of five albums, The Nadir, albums are my favorite albums, and the styles of these three albums have slightly changed. The Last Supper and Nadir album styles include There is a taste of black metal, and Cascade is a pure grindcore-style album. Why do you want to change your style? Can you talk about the process in detail?

S: 它从来都不是一个有意识的决定，我们会写东西，我想它反映了我们在家听的东西。我们最大变化是因为我们有了一个新的鼓手，所以音乐背后有不同的动感和精神

Its never a conscious decision, we write stuff and I guess it reflects what we listen to at home. the big change after nadir was because we had a new drummer. And for cascade.. again.. we had a new drummer. so there is different dynamic and spirit behind the music

V: 在乐队发行的作品中，您最喜欢哪张专辑？您对这五张专辑有什么想法吗？我个人认为您的所有专辑很棒

Which album is your favorite among the works released by your band? Do you have any thoughts on these five albums? I personally think that your albums are excellent

S: 感谢您的客气话。目前，我最喜欢的是Nadir和pessimist.。它一直在变化。 Nadir非常激进，我喜欢悲观主义者的心情和歌词。

Thank you for your kind words. At the moment in time my favorite is Nadir or pessimist. It changes all the time. Nadir was super aggressive and I liked the mood and lyrics on pessimist.

V: 您所有的作品都是由所有乐队成员创作的吗？你如何划分工作

Are all your works created by all band members? How do you divide the work

S: 如果有人有想法，我们会分享并尝试将它们融合在一起。以前在covid问题之前，我们会在乐队练习中创建所有内容，但现在我们正在家里写作，并使用更多技术来创作音乐。

If anybody has a idea we share it and try fit them together. previously before the covid problem we would create everything at band practice but now we are writing at home and using more technology to create music.

V: 我发现您乐队的每张专辑都以不同的标签发行。您对这些标签的工作满意吗？您最喜欢使用哪个标签？我看到您与当地唱片公司“sentinal”合作发行了第二张专辑。可以介绍这个标签吗？我对这个标签不太了解。您现在正在与印度的“Transcending Obscurity Records”唱片合作。为什么选择此标签合作呢？

I see that each album of your band is released under a different label. Are you satisfied with the work of these labels? Which label do you like best to work with? I saw that you have released your second album in cooperation with a local label "sentinal". Can you introduce this label? I don’t know much about this label. You are now cooperating with India’s "trancending Obscurity" Record. Why did you choose this label to work with?

S: 回想起来，我认为所有标签都做得很好。当时我们对Season of Mist不满意（标签1），但我们年轻且经验不足，我们期望他们能提供更多。但是他们给了我们不公平的待遇。所以我们签约了当地的标签“Sentinel Records”，因为我们不想再成为大池塘里的小鱼了，这对我们很有用，Nadir这张专辑非常成功。我不记得为什么我们签了Xtreme的专辑3（Dark crusade），我认为他的唱片发行要比“Sentinel Records”更好。Dark Crusade是我们最畅销的专辑。但是，由于我们针对不同的许可协议多次重印了该CD，因此我们自己为此做了大部分促销工作。因此，我们签约了Metal Age Productions，他们是尽力而为的好人，但他们遭受了一些灾难性洪水，使他们陷入困境，并毁了他们的生意。烛光让我们感到悲观，他们是一个大品牌，对我们确实很有帮助，但是后来他们被卖给了另一家公司，我们还没有从他们那里得到任何回报。现在我们从印度签署了“Transcending Obscurity Records”的协议。他们似乎在一起。我们已经为新专辑准备好了艺术品，我们应该在6月将其记录下来，但是发生了紧急情况，现在我们希望可以在这个冬天记录下所有的新歌曲，Sentinel records由爱尔兰的Brian Taube管理。从一开始，他就一直是Abaddon Incarnate的良好支持者。他们是一个小唱片公司，实际上不再发行任何唱片，它们基本上是一个发行再版唱片的公司。

In retrospect I think all labels have done a good job. At the time we were not happy with seasons of mist ( label 1 ) but we were young and inexperienced and we expected much more from them. But they gave us fair treatment. we moved to local label "sentinel" because we did not want to be a small fish in a big pond any more, and this worked for us, nadir was very successful. I cant remember why we signed to Xtreme for album number 3 ( dark crusade ) i think he had some better distro than sentinel. and dark crusade was our best selling release. however we did most of the promo work for that ourselves as we reprinted that cd many times for different licencing deals. So we signed to metal age for cascade who were good guys who did their best but they had some disaster flood which fucked them up and destroyed their business. candlelight signed us for pessimist and they were a big label and really good for us but then they got sold to another umbrella company and we have not heard anything back from them.. or no royalties or anything. We are now signed to "trancending Obscurity" from India. They seem to have their shit together. We have the artwork ready for our new album and we should have recorded it it this june but the covid emergency occurred and now we will hopefully record this coming winter,In retrospect I think all labels have done a good job. At the time we were not happy with seasons of mist ( label 1 ) but we were young and inexperienced and we expected much more from them. But they gave us fair treatment. we moved to local label "sentinel" because we did not want to be a small fish in a big pond any more, and this worked for us, nadir was very successful. I cant remember why we signed to Xtreme for album number 3 ( dark crusade ) i think he had some better distro than sentinel. and dark crusade was our best selling release. however we did most of the promo work for that ourselves as we reprinted that cd many times for different licencing deals. So we signed to metal age for cascade who were good guys who did their best but they had some disaster flood which fucked them up and destroyed their business. candlelight signed us for pessimist and they were a big label and really good for us but then they got sold to another umbrella company and we have not heard anything back from them.. or no royalties or anything. We are now signed to "trancending Obscurity" from India. They seem to have their shit together. We have the artwork ready for our new album and we should have recorded it it this june but the covid emergency occurred and now we will hopefully record this coming winter,Sentinel records is run by Brian Taube here in Ireland. he has been a good supporter of Abaddon Incarnate since the very beginning. They are a small label and dont really do any releases any more they are basically a distro label.

V: 您的乐队也参加了许多合辑专辑比如：

"Ville Pleasures of Transfguration" on Metallian Sampler N°13 (Metallic, 1999)

-"Homunculus" in In Unison (Sentinel, 2000)

-"The Gate of Terror" (Hamunaptra). 15 (Terrorizer, 2001)

-"Eternal Life" intoxicated. 1 (Poisonous, 2001)

-Compile the "traumatic stress solution" on the CD for free. 4 (Brutallica Magazine, 2002)

-"Disgusting commission" on the Necromance CD sampler (Necromance, 2004)

-Xtreem Mutilation Vol. "Disgusting" 1 (Xtreem Music, 2004)

"1756" on the Drunken Roll. 4 (Underground Movement, 2006)

-"Go to Old Walls (Obscene Prod. 2009)" in the 2009 "Obscene Extreme" film

这些专辑，您可以向中国粉丝介绍这些专辑吗？您是如何参与的？

Your band also participated in many compilation album samples: "Ville Pleasures of Transfguration" on Metallian Sampler N°13 (Metallic, 1999)

-"Homunculus" in In Unison (Sentinel, 2000)

-"The Gate of Terror" (Hamunaptra). 15 (Terrorizer, 2001)

-"Eternal Life" intoxicated. 1 (Poisonous, 2001)

-Compile the "traumatic stress solution" on the CD for free. 4 (Brutallica Magazine, 2002)

-"Disgusting commission" on the Necromance CD sampler (Necromance, 2004)

-Xtreem Mutilation Vol. "Disgusting" 1 (Xtreem Music, 2004)

"1756" on the Drunken Roll. 4 (Underground Movement, 2006)

-"Go to Old Walls (Obscene Prod. 2009)" in the 2009 "Obscene Extreme" film

These compiled albums, can you introduce these albums to fans in China? How did you get involved?

S: 这些唱片是由各种唱片公司组织的，我们无法控制它们，并且它们被安排用于促销目的，因此唱片公司可以使乐队接触更多唱片公司

So these are organised by the various record labels, we have no control over them and they are arranged for promotional purposes so the label can expose the band to more record sales

V: 您的乐队成立了多久了，应该参加许多现场表演或音乐节？哪些音乐节或现场表演给您留下了深刻的印象？你能告诉我这些音乐节的名字吗？

How long has your band been established and must have participated in many live performances or music festivals? Which music festivals or live performances have impressed you? Can you tell me the names of these music festivals?

S: 我们已经存在了25年。并播放了数千场演出。我们一直都是出色的现场乐队。在捷克共和国的Obscene Extreme玩夜间游戏是一大亮点。但是在澳大利亚，南美和俄罗斯巡回演出也是很棒的经历。我们很荣幸能够进行所有这些表演。我不需要这种冠状病毒才能继续干下来，这样我们才能再次回到舞台上，

25 years we have existed. And played 1000s of shows. We have been always a excellent live band. playing nighttime at obscene Extreme in the Cz republic was a highlight. But touring in Australia and South america and Russia is also amazing experience. We are privileged and lucky to be able to do all these shows. I need this coronovirus to fuck off so we can get back on stage again,

V: 除了您的乐队之外，爱尔兰还有许多优秀的乐队。您能介绍一些爱尔兰的死亡金属或grindcore风格的乐队吗？在中国，很多人只是了解您的乐队，而对其他爱尔兰乐队却不了解。

Apart from yours, there are many excellent bands in Ireland. Can you introduce some death metal or grindcore-style bands from Ireland? In China, a lot of people just know your band but don’t know much about other Irish bands.

S: 我来自爱尔兰的四支最喜欢的乐队，三支分开了哈哈，但还是要让家知道一下这些乐队。Zom ( death metal ) 解散，Ogre ( grind ) 解散，Okus ( crust )，Morphosis ( death metal ) 解散，

my four favorite bands from ireland , 3 have split up haha But check them out anyway，Zom ( death metal ) split up，Ogre ( grind ) split up，Okus ( crust )，Morphosis ( death metal ) split up

V: 您几岁开始接触重金属音乐？您几岁开始学习弹奏乐器的？

How old are you when you started to be exposed to heavy metal music? At what age did you learn to play an instrument?

S: 我从10或11岁开始听ACDC，Guns And Roses之类的音乐。我在学校与听重金属家伙结识了朋友，并受到了slayer, megadeth, nuclear assault的影响，在13/14，我开始听死亡金属和从15岁开始grind并开始演奏bereaved乐队的音乐。我的继父和叔叔都是音乐家，我11岁左右就开始弹吉他，并想着我该怎么弹。

I started listening to ACDC and Guns and roses etc at age 10 or 11. i got friends with the heavy metal guys in school and got exposed to slayer, megadeth, nuclear assault, and at 13/14 I started to listen to death metal and grind and started playing music with bereaved at age 15. But i played guitar since I was about 11 as my step father and uncle were musicians and thought me how to play.

V: 您现在可以介绍爱尔兰的重金属音乐氛围吗？是否有很多人喜欢死亡金属或grindcore风格的音乐？

Can you introduce the atmosphere of heavy metal music in Ireland now? Do many people like death metal or grindcore style music?

S: 我们有一个大型节日“siege of limerick”，每年举行两次，大约有800/1000人参加。还有许多其他较小的节日。 Abaddon Incarnate在都柏林演出，那么一场演出将吸引约100/200人。所以它的规模很小，但是有趣。

V: 您的乐队自2017年以来未发布任何新作品。您的乐队最近有新作品吗？录制了一些新歌？

Your band has not released any new works since 2017. Is there any new work for your band recently? Recorded some new songs?

S: 是的，我们已经签署了从印度Transcending Obscurity Records的协议，并且该新记录原定于6月记录。但是由于新冠肺炎的流行已经取消了所有计划。新的目标是在冬天进入工作室并grind出一些新材料。基本上都完成了，在锁定期间我们在家中创造了新的想法和歌曲，因此我们将继续努力，并在2021年发布新版本

yeah the we have signed to trancending Obscurity from India and the new record was supposed to be recorded in June. But the pandemic has cancelled all plans. The new objective is to enter the studio in the winter and grind out some new material. It is mostly all finished, we have had new ideas and songs created at home during our lockdown so we will work on these and we will will have a new release in 2021

V: 对来自中国的粉丝说些什么！！

Say something to your fans from China! !

S: 你好中国！您是我们25年来第一次从您的国家/地区来信。如果有兴趣，我们可以来为您演奏一些音乐会，我们很乐意参观并为您制造声音，看看您有多疯狂？我真的很想听到大家的来信。我喜欢在遥远的地方结识新朋友。

hello china! You are our first correspondence from your country in 25 years. if the appetite is there get in touch and we can come and play some concerts for you, we would love to visit and make some noise for you and see how crazy you can be? I am really interested to hear from you all. I love to make new friends in faraway places.

在通过这次访谈之后对于Abaddon Incarnate乐队有了更深的了解，也了解到他们将在明年发行最新专辑，这也是非常期待的事情，也希望Abaddon Incarnate乐队将来有机会来北京演出，也希望通过这篇文章让更多的人了解Abaddon Incarnate乐队。

Abaddon Incarnate乐队主要作品（由于一些名字不能发布所以我只发布几张作品，其他封面在在相册里发布）：

Abaddon Incarnate - Nadir