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严刑拷问 - 荷兰残酷死亡金属Severe Torture乐队专访

火山杂志 2022-07-04 11:05:47

荷兰作为重金属音乐最重要的国家之一，拥有着很多很多经典乐队，比如Asphyx，Pestilence, Gorefes，Sepiroth, Buried, Lucifericon, Teethgrinder, Prostitute Disfigurement，Arsebreed, Pyaemia, Disavowed等等优秀乐队，之前我也采访了很多荷兰的乐队，那么今天我就在为大家介绍一支来自荷兰的优秀乐队Severe Torture，1997年成立的Severe Torture乐队是荷兰元老级的老牌经典乐队，他们见证了荷兰死亡金属音乐的发展，由吉他手Thijs，鼓手Seth，贝斯手Patrick组建了这支乐队，乐队深受Cannibal Corpse乐队的影响，1998年乐队发行了第一张正式Demo作品“Baptized...”也正是这张作品引起很多标签的注意，2000年乐队的单曲“Lambs of a God”引起了荷兰的标签The Plague的注意，并且为他们发行了vinyl版本，说到The Plague可能大家对这家标签并不是很熟悉，但是说到这家标签的主体Hammerheart Records我相信大家一定非常熟悉了，The Plague就是Hammerheart Records的子标签，不过The Plague标签在2002年左右就倒闭了，也正是The Plague标签成就了Severe Torture乐队与Hammerheart Records的合作，从2000 - 2005年期间乐队都在与Hammerheart Records进行合作，Hammerheart Records为他们发行了早期的两张正式专辑以及一些其他的专辑，2005年和2007年的两张专辑乐队是在另外一家著名标签Earache Records发行的，不过在Earache Records发行的两张专辑对乐队并不是很满意，之后乐队与法国的Season of Mist标签合作并且在今年为乐队发行了最新的EP专辑“Fisting the Sockets”，这也是乐队时隔十一年之后的最新作品，同时乐队也在准备他们的最新专辑，目前已经准备十首新的歌曲，他们也准备在最近几个月完成录制工作，这也是2023年我最期待的专辑之一，就在新作品发布之后我联系到了乐队的吉他手Thijs进行了一次访谈，下面就让我了解一下这支作为荷兰最重要的乐队Severe Torture（V: 代表笔者 T: 代表Thijs）

As one of the most important countries in heavy metal music, the Netherlands has many classic bands, such as Asphyx, Pestilence, Gorefes, Sepiroth, Buried, Lucifericon, Teethgrinder, Prostitute Disfigurement, Arsebreed, Pyaemia, Disavowed, etc. I also interviewed before. I have visited a lot of Dutch bands, so today I will introduce you to an excellent band from the Netherlands, Severe Torture. The Severe Torture band established in 1997 is a veteran Dutch classic band. They have witnessed the development of Dutch death metal music. The band was formed by guitarist Thijs, drummer Seth, and bassist Patrick. The band was deeply influenced by the Cannibal Corpse band. In 1998, the band released the first official Demo work "Baptized..." It was also caused by this work. A lot of labels have noticed. In 2000, the band's single "Lambs of a God" caught the attention of the Dutch label The Plague and released a vinyl version for them. Speaking of The Plague, you may not be very familiar with this label. But when it comes to Hammerheart Records, the main body of this label, I believe you must be very familiar with it. The Plague is a sub-label of Hammerheart Records. However, The Plague label went bankrupt around 2002, and it was The Plague label that made the Severe Torture band. Collaboration with Hammerheart Records, from 2000-2005, the band collaborated with Hammerheart Records, Hammerheart Records released two early official albums for them and a few other albums, the two albums in 2005 and 2007 The band is Released on another well-known label, Earache Records, but the two albums released by Earache Records were not very satisfactory to the band, after which the band collaborated with the French label Season of Mist and released their latest EP for the band this year "Fisting the Sockets", which is also the band's latest work after 11 years. At the same time, the band is also preparing for their latest album. Currently, they have prepared ten new songs. They are also preparing to complete the recording work in the next few months. This is also 2023. One of my most anticipated albums of 2019, just after the release of the new work, I reached out to the band's guitarist Thijs for an interview, and here's what I've learned Next, as the most important band in the Netherlands, Severe Torture (V: for the author T: for Thijs)

吉他手：Thijs van Laarhoven

V: 你好兄弟，很高兴认识你，非常感谢你参加这次采访。我想这可能是您的乐队第一次接受中国杂志的采访。你可能不知道在遥远的中国有你乐队的粉丝。首先跟你们的中国粉丝打个招呼，Severe Torture乐队成立于1997年，是一支非常有资历的老乐队。谁提议组建这个乐队，我想这是一个很遥远的故事。你还记得当时的情景吗？Severe Torture这个名字是谁想出来的？

T: 你好中国！感谢您对Severe Torture的关注！可能是我们第一次接受中文杂志的采访。我叫 Thijs是乐队的2位吉他手之一。我于1997年与我们的贝斯手Patrick和几年前离开乐队的原始鼓手Seth一起创办了乐队。那时荷兰的场景并不大像Pestilence、Gorefest和Asphyx这样的老乐队已经比他们的第一个亮点还多一点，与像Pyaemia和Disavowed这样的乐队一起，我们在死亡金属场景中是新鲜的。但是场景很小我们认识每个人。

V: 你的乐队成立已经25年了，这些年你经历了很多不同的阵容，现在乐队的原始成员只有Thijs van Laarhoven和Patrick Boleij，其余的成员都被替换了，你的最近的变化在2018年新的鼓手Damiën Kerpentier加入了乐队。新成员加入乐队后带来了哪些新的创作灵感？你们多久聚在一起排练？

It's been 25 years since your band was formed, and you've gone through a lot of different lineups over the years, and now the band's original members are only Thijs van Laarhoven and Patrick Boleij, the rest of the players have been replaced, your most recent change The musician was replaced by a new drummer Damiën Kerpentier in 2018. What new creative inspiration did the band bring to the band after the new member joined the band? How often do you get together to rehearse?

T: 实际上自从我们的第一张专辑以来，我们只有2次小的阵容变化。2003年吉他手Marvin加入了我们（没有人离开）2018年鼓手Seth离开了乐队Damiën加入了。在我们的第一个演示（1998 年）中，我们有一个不同的歌手和吉他手，但他们在1999年我们完成第一张专辑之前就离开了自从 Damiën加入以来，我们找到了一种新的能量，他比我们其他人年轻几岁，并且非常渴望快速打鼓，哈哈。我们尝试每2周排练一次，但由于我们所有人的生活、全职工作和家庭都非常忙碌很难和我们五个人一起进入一个房间。

Actually we only had 2 small line-up changes since our first album. In 2003 guitar player Marvin joined us (nobody left) and in 2018 drummer Seth left the band and Damiën stepped in. On our first demo (1998) we had a different singer and guitar player but they left in 1999 before we completed our first album. Since Damiën stepped in we have found a new energy, he’s a couple years younger than the rest of us and very eager to play fast, haha. We try to rehearse every 2 weeks but with all of us having very busy lifes, fulltime jobs and families, it very hard to get in a room together with the 5 of us.

V: 一直很喜欢你们乐队的录音，每一个细节，每一个乐器都听得一清二楚，你们的专辑是在哪个录音室录制的？哪位音响工程师为您制作了专辑？我觉得你今年发布的最新EP专辑的录音很好，很重，我很喜欢。

I've always liked your band's recordings, every detail, every instrument can be heard clearly, which studio did you record the album in? Which sound engineer produced the album for you? I think the recording of your latest EP album released this year is very good, very heavy, and I love it.

T: 谢谢你的赞美！前两张专辑由Berthus Westerhuys和Robbie Woning（DeadHead 中的吉他手）在Frankys Recording Kitchen录制，专辑3和4由Hans Pieters 在 Excess Studios录制，我们的第五张专辑Slaughtered我们在Split Second Sound Studio录制Jochem Jacobs，Textures的吉他手。我们的新EP是我们在鼓手Damiën的家庭工作室中录制的，并由曾在Aborted中弹吉他的Mendel bij de Leij混音。我觉得我们的作品很清晰，因为在混音台后面总是有一个吉他手，哈哈。

Thanx for the compliments! The first 2 albums are recorded in Frankys Recording Kitchen by Berthus Westerhuys and Robbie Woning (guitar player in DeadHead), album 3 & 4 were recorded in the Excess Studios by Hans Pieters and our 5th album Slaughtered we recorded in the Split Second Sound Studio’s by Jochem Jacobs, guitar player in Textures. Our new EP we recorded ourselves in our drummer Damiën’s homestudio and was mixed by Mendel bij de Leij who used to play guitar in Aborted. I think our productions have been so clearly because there was always a guitar player behind the mixing desk, haha.

V: 你们的乐队是如何创作歌曲的，能告诉我们创作歌曲的过程吗？

How do your bands create songs, can you tell us about the process of creating songs?

T: 回到我们每周排练的日子里，我们在排练室里创造了一切，但从第三张专辑开始，通常是帕特里克、马文或我在家里写一首歌的一部分或一首整首歌，然后我们把它带到排练室然后我们把这首歌加起来直到它完成。有时一首歌本身就很好，我们不需要花太多时间在里面，但有时我们会排练一首歌曲2、3或4次。歌词通常是在以后写的，在录音前及时和人声一起完成，哈哈。

Back in the days we rehearsed every week and we created everything in the rehearsal room but since the 3rd album it’s usually Patrick, Marvin or me who writes part of a song or a entire song at home and then we bring it to the rehearsal room and we jam the song till it’s finished. Sometimes a song is good as it is and we don’t have to put much time in it but other times we work on 1 song 2, 3 or 4 rehearsals. Lyrics are usually written later and completed with the vocal lines just in time before recording, haha.

贝斯手：Patrick Boleij

V: 您的乐队的标志设计精美，谁为您设计了这个标志？你们乐队的专辑封面设计的很漂亮，很符合你们乐队的名字Severe Torture很残酷，这些专辑封面也一样是设计师给你们设计的吗？可以介绍一下这位艺术家吗？

Your band's logo is beautifully designed, who designed this logo for you? Your band's album artwork is beautifully designed, it fits your band's name Severe Torture very well, it's very cruel, these album artworks are also the same Did the designer design it for you? Can you introduce the artist?

T: 标志是我做的，谢谢你的赞美！我想我是在学校上课时做到的，可能是在我的脑海里留下了病态天使和残酷真相的标志，哈哈。我们前 2张专辑的美术是由Joe Maloney完成的。“Fall of the Despised”和“Sworn Vengeance”由Bjoern Goosses完成，而“Slaughtered”由荷兰同胞 Erik Visser 完成。我们最新的 EP 由意大利艺术家Roberto Toderico完成，他也为我们做过商品设计，他是一位真正的艺术家，我们很高兴我们找到了他！

The logo is made by me, thanx for the compliments! I think I made it during lessons at school probably with the Morbid Angel and Brutal Truth logo in the back of my mind, haha. The art for our first 2 albums is done by Joe Maloney. Fall of the Despised and Sworn Vengeance are done by Bjoern Goosses and Slaughtered was done by Erik Visser, a fellow Dutchman. Our latest EP is done by Italian artist Roberto Toderico who also did merchdesigns for us, he’s a true artist and we’re very glad we found him!

V: 您的音乐主题涉及反基督教、仇恨、复仇等。那么您为什么选择这样的音乐主题，您想通过这样的音乐主题表达什么想法？我也仔细看了你们乐队的歌词，这些歌词写得很好，这些歌词是谁创作的？他的灵感来自哪里？

Your music theme involves Anti-Christianity, Hatred, Vengeance, etc. So why did you choose such a music theme, and what idea do you want to express through such a music theme? I also read the lyrics of your band carefully, these lyrics are very well written, who created these lyrics? Where does his inspiration come from?

T: 嗯，死亡金属是一种非常激进的音乐风格，所以我们喜欢在那种音乐中加入激进的歌词。从一开始我们的前鼓手Seth负责大部分歌词，但自从第三张专辑Marvin也贡献了，自从Seth离开乐队后，我也写了一些。灵感来自我们周围的一切，也来自电影和书籍。

Well, Death Metal is a very aggressive music style so we like to put aggressive lyrics to that music. Since the beginning our former drummer Seth was responsible for most of the lyrics but since the 3rd album Marvin also contributes and since Seth left the band I also write some. Inspiration comes from everything around us but also from movies and books.

V: 你早期的专辑是在荷兰唱片公司发行的，例如伟大的Hammerheart Records是你乐队最早的合作伙伴，并为你发行了很多专辑，直到2005年你选择了更大的唱片公司Earache Records为你发行了两张专辑，2010年你的乐队厂牌再次发生了变化，这次你与法国的Season of Mist签约，为你发行2010年的专辑和最新的EP专辑，虽然这些厂牌都是很棒的厂牌，但我个人认为你在Earache Records的专辑更有影响力，为什么你放弃了与Earache Records的合作关系并签约了Season of Mist呢？这三家公司你觉得哪一家让你满意？

Your early albums were released on Dutch labels, for example the great Hammerheart Records was your band's earliest partner and released a lot of albums for you until 2005 when you chose the even greater label Earache Records for you Released two albums, in 2010 your band changed the label again, this time you Le · signed with the French Season of Mist to release the latest EP albums for you in 2010 and this year, these labels are great labels, but I personally think your albums on Earache Records are more influential, so why did you drop your Earache Records partnership and sign for Season of Mist? Of these three companies which one do you think is satisfactory to you?

T: 老实说，Earache放弃了我们，可能是因为我们卖得不够，也没有赚到大钱，哈哈。我们对Season of Mist最满意，这就是我们再次与他们签约的原因。在最初的几年里Hammerheart为我们做了出色的工作，如果没有他们的支持，我认为我们无法走到这一步。那时时代不同了，专辑销量还不错，什么都有钱。现在情况不同了。幸运的是我们还有20年前的名字，但对于较新的乐队来说，现在很难找到某个地方。

To be honest Earache dropped us, probably because we didn’t sell enough and didn’t bring in the big bucks, haha. We are most satisfied with Season of Mist, that’s why we signed with them again. Hammerheart did a great job for us in the first couple of years, without their support I don’t think we would be able to come this far. Times were different back then, album sales were still good and there was money for everything. That’s different nowadays. Luckily we still have a name from 20 years back but for newer bands it’s really difficult to get somewhere these days.

V: 首先恭喜你们今年发布了最新的EP专辑，这也是你们2011年之后的最新作品。在此期间你们的乐队没有发布任何新作品。乐队时隔11年出新作品的原因是什么？是因为工作家庭还是其他原因？

First of all, congratulations on the release of your latest EP album this year, which is also your latest work after 2011. During this period, your band has not released any new works. What is the reason for the band to release any new works in 11 years? Well, is it because of work, family or some other reason?

T: 好吧，在2010年我们的上一张专辑“Slaughtered”之后，我们播放了很多很酷的节目和节日，我们开始研究新材料，但它对我们不起作用。我们找不到合适的心态来创作我们都喜欢的音乐。在2016 年玩完Maryland Deathfest后，我们决定退出写作和排练，看看是否有一点时间对我们有帮助。在那段时间里Seth决定辞职，我们不得不寻找新的鼓手。当我们找到Damiën时，我们开始再次排练表演节目，当我们准备写新歌时，新冠病毒大流行袭来，一切都被推迟了。

Well, after our last album Slaughtered in 2010 we played a lot of cool shows and festivals and we started to work on new material but it just didn’t work for us. We couldn’t find the right mindset to create music we all liked. After we played Maryland Deathfest in 2016 we decided to step back from writing and rehearsing to see if a little time off would help us. In that period Seth decided to quit and we had to look for a new drummer. When we found Damiën we started rehearsing to play shows again and by the time we were getting ready to write new songs the covid pandemic hit and everything got delayed even more.

歌手：Dennis Schreurs

V: 首先恭喜你今年最新的EP专辑“Fisting the Sockets”发行。这也是你11年后的最新作品。是我个人非常期待的作品之一。我一直是你们乐队的忠实粉丝。我从2000年开始就和你在一起直到现在，我知道你的乐队深受Cannibal Corpse的影响，你们是一个非常快速和激进，非常技术性的乐队，有一些非常好的旋律，吉他即兴演奏是快速而曲折，但易于识别，而不是复杂的类型。即兴演奏中带有一丝旋律，鼓声快速、侵略性和野蛮。几乎每首曲目都有快速的低音鼓和爆炸性的节拍，但也有一些节奏变化，人声非常野蛮低吼，你的新作品我现在听到了一首试听曲目，我个人认为新歌变化它更加残酷、快速和沉重。我不知道这样评价你的作品是否正确。您对自己的作品有什么看法和意见吗？

First of all, congratulations on the release of your latest EP album "Fisting the Sockets" this year. This is also your latest work after 11 years of separation. It is one of the works that I personally look forward to very much. I have always been a loyal fan of your band. I have been with you since 2000. 's first album is following you up until now, I know your band is heavily influenced by Cannibal Corpse, you are a very fast and aggressive, very technical band with some really nice melodies, Guitar riffs are quick and twisty, but easily recognizable, rather than complex types. There's a hint of melody in the riffs, and the drums are fast, aggressive and brutal. Almost every track has fast bass drums and explosive beats, but there are also some rhythm changes, the vocals are very brutal, always low growl, your new work I've heard a trial track at the moment, I personally think the new song changes It's more brutal, fast, and heavy. I can't stop evaluating your works. Do you have any opinions and opinions on your works?

T: 我们总是试图制作一些残酷但仍然有点旋律和可识别的歌曲。不复杂但仍然具有挑战性。但是玩起来像Origin或Necrophagist 并不容易的歌曲。你听到的第一首新歌是Fisting the Sockets，这确实是一首残酷的歌曲。

We always tried to make songs that are brutal but still a bit melodic and recognizable. Not to complicated but still challenging to play. It’s not easy stuff to play but on the other side no Origin or Necrophagist either. The first new song you heard is Fisting the Sockets and that’s a brutal one indeed.

V: 这张新专辑发行后你有什么新的工作要做吗？比如继续创作一些新歌或者参加一些音乐节，能不能透露一些信息给大家？

Do you have any new work to do after releasing this new album? For example, continue to create some new songs or participate in some music festivals, can you reveal some information to everyone?

T: 我们现在正在录制一张新专辑，我们准备了大约10首歌曲，我们希望在几个月内完成录制，以便在2023年初在Season of Mist标签发行。我们有几个很酷的音乐节即将到来，但我们主要专注于录制新专辑。歌曲在新EP的范围内，但有时慢，有时暗，有时快，哈哈！

We are recording a new album at this moment, we got about 10 songs ready and we hope to finish recording in a few months for an early 2023 release, also on Season of Mist. We have a couple of cool festivals coming up but we mainly focus on recording that new album. The songs are in the range of the new EP but sometimes slower, sometimes darker and sometimes faster, haha!

V: 我知道你们参加过很多音乐节，有哪些给你留下了深刻的印象？你能告诉我们当时的气氛吗？我也知道一个小故事。当你在2007年与Deicide一起参加欧洲巡演时，Glen Benton拒绝为你的乐队演奏，所以Seth van de Loo暂时被Glen Benton取代。是什么原因让Glen Benton为你的乐队演奏？如果有一天中国音乐节邀请你来中国演出，你会接受邀请来中国旅游吗？

I know you have attended many music festivals, which ones have left a deep impression on you? Can you tell us about the atmosphere at the time? I also know a little story. When you were on a European tour with Deicide in 2007, Glen Benton refused to play for your band, so Seth van de Loo was temporarily replaced by Glen Benton. Location, what caused Glen Benton to play for your band? If one day a Chinese music festival invites you to perform in China, would you accept the invitation to travel to China?

T: 我们当然很想来中国参加音乐节！我认为目前这并不容易，但如果中国的情况开始恢复正常，我希望它可以在某个时候发生。我们确实做了很多节日。印象最深的要数Hellfest，这是最大的音乐节，同一天有最多的乐队真的很特别。恐怕关于格伦本顿的故事是不正确的。Deicide要去欧洲巡演，我们的前鼓手Seth和他们的吉他手Ralph Santolla是好朋友。在巡演的第一天Seth去见了他，当他当天早些时候到达会场时，Glen Benton似乎仍在美国，因为他必须参加一些合法的事情而拒绝进行巡演。所以Deicide让Seth做人声（Seth 在 Centurian 和 Nox 中也做过人声）他做到了。他和他们一起演出了4场演出，不幸的是他不得不休息几天了。另一方面我们从来没有和格伦本顿一起玩过；-)

Of course we would love to come to China to play at a festival! I don’t think it’s easy at the moment but if things start to get back to normal in China I hope it can happen sometime. We did a lot of festivals indeed. The one that made the biggest impression would be Hellfest, it was the biggest festival with the biggest bands on the same day, really special. The story about Glen Benton isn’t correct I’m afraid. Deicide was going to do a European tour and our former drummer Seth was good friends with their guitar player Ralph Santolla. At the first day of the tour Seth went to met him and when he arrived at the venue early that day it appeared that Glen Benton was still in the US refusing to do the tour cause of some legal stuff he had to attend. So Deicide asked Seth to do vocals (Seth also did vocals in Centurian and Nox) and he did. He played 4 shows with them, he couldn’t get more days off from work unfortunately. We on the other hand never played with Glen Benton ;-)

吉他手：Marvin Vriesde

V: 你知道中国的金属乐坛吗？你知道那些来自中国的死亡金属乐队或中国金属厂牌吗？如果有一天一个中国厂牌想和你的乐队一起发行一张专辑，你会接受邀请吗？

Do you know anything about the metal scene in China? Do you know those death metal bands or Chinese metal labels from China? If one day a Chinese label wants to release an album with your band, would you accept the invitation?

T: 老实说，我对中国金属圈一无所知。对于在中国发行的唱片公司可以随时联系Season of Mist，不知道我们是否覆盖了该地区。

To be honest, I don’t know anything about the Chinese metal scene. For a release in China labels can always contact Season of Mist, don’t know if we got that territory covered.

V: 我知道荷兰是死亡金属音乐非常重要的国家。你的国家有很多优秀的乐队，比如Arsebreed、Pyaemia、Disavowed等等。我还采访了你们国家的许多乐队。就像我之前提到的我对来的三个乐队进行了采访，所以你能介绍一些你认为优秀的荷兰乐队吗？

I know that the Netherlands is a very important country for death metal music. There are a lot of good bands in your country like Arsebreed, Pyaemia, Disavowed and many others. I have also interviewed many bands from your country. Like I mentioned before I did interviews for the three bands that arrived, so can you introduce some Dutch bands that you think are excellent?

T: 你说的那三个当然是优秀的乐队，也是我们的好朋友。仅举几例Sepiroth、Buried、Lucifericon、Teethgrinder、Prostitute Disfigurement、Soulburn和Graceless，当然Pestilence和Asphyx仍然做得很好。

The 3 you mentioned are of course excellent bands and good friends of us. To name a few others; Sepiroth, Buried, Lucifericon, Teethgrinder, Prostitute Disfigurement, Soulburn & Graceless. Of course Pestilence and Asphyx are still doing good.

V: 除了Cannibal Corpse之外你是否受到其他乐队的影响，你能说出一些你最喜欢的乐队吗？

T: 一开始，我们当然受到Cannibal Corpse、Deicide、Cryptopsy和Deeds of Flesh的影响。后来我们得到了更多Morbid Angel的影响，在过去的15年里我们听了各种各样的东西，并从各种乐队甚至是黑金属乐队中获得了我们的影响。

V: 我想我已经问了很多问题，我应该停止“骚扰”你们，哈哈，就像我说的Severe Torture是一支非常好的乐队也是我个人的最爱之一，我一直是你们乐队的忠实粉丝 . 我会一直关注和支持你的乐队。也希望通过我的采访，让更多的中国歌迷认识你的乐队，爱上你的作品。那么你到底有什么想对中国球迷说的呢？

I think I've asked a lot of questions, I should stop "harassing" you guys, haha, like I said Severe Torture is a very good band, and one of my personal favorites, I I have always been a loyal fan of your band. I will always pay attention to and support your band. I also hope that through my interview, more Chinese fans will know your band and fall in love with your work. So what do you have in the end What do you want to say to the fans in China?

T: 嗯，谢谢你的采访和支持！希望有更多的中国听众和粉丝，希望有一天我们有机会在中国演出，那太棒了！！

Well, thanx for the interview and your support! Hope to get some more Chinese listeners and fans and hopefully we will get the chance to play in China one day, that would be awesome!!